In this episode we talk about how Betsy left her secure role at Forbes (at the height of the economic recession). Betsy then embarked on some educational volunteering, dust-bunny collection and finally set up Edsurge in a bid to better understand why the future technologies of learning were not making it into the everyday schools of California. We also talk yoga, egos and high-stakes student academic and entrepreneurial expectation in the Silicon Valley, as well as what Hamilton the musical has got to do with Personalised Learning.