#277 – AI from a Global Perspective (AI in Ed Miniseries)
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What’s in this episode?
Continuing our miniseries on AI in education with the third episode centred around a global perspective on AI, host Professor Rose Luckin is joined by Andreas Schleicher of the OECD, Dr Elise Ecoff of Nord Anglia Education, and Dan Worth of Tes. This episode and our series are generously sponsored by Nord Anglia Education.
In our third instalment of this valuable series, we head out beyond the UK and the English-speaking world to get a global perspective on AI, and ask how educators and developers around the world build and engage with AI, and what users, teachers and learners want from the technology that might tell people back home a thing or two. We examine how international use of AI might change the way we engage with AI, and we also ask why they might be doing things differently.
Guests:
- Dr Andreas Schleicher, Director for the Directorate of Education & Skills, OECD
- Dr Elise Ecoff, Chief Education Officer, Nord Anglia Education
- Dan Worth, Senior Editor, Tes
Talking points and questions include:
- What are other countries tech and education ecosystems doing to develop and implement AI?
- International considerations of ethics and regulation
- Is the first world imposing a way of looking at technology and its innovation on the third world? What assumptions are we making, and are we mindful of the context?
- Is the first world restricting innovation through specific regulation to change what technology is being built and how, and who might it benefit?
- Skills and competencies development can be driven by the needs of business – what priorities for AI education exhibited by international models could the UK adopt or consider?
Guests
- Dr Andreas Schleicher, Director for the Directorate of Education & Skills, OECD
Andreas Schleicher is Director for Education and Skills, and Special Advisor on Education Policy to the Secretary-General at the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) in Paris. He initiated and oversees the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) and other international instruments that have created a global platform for policy-makers, researchers and educators across nations and cultures to innovate and transform educational policies and practices.
He has worked for over 20 years with ministers and education leaders around the world to improve quality and equity in education. Former U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan said that Schleicher “understands the global issues and challenges as well as or better than anyone I’ve met, and he tells me the truth” (The Atlantic, July 11). Former UK Secretary of State Michael Gove called Schleicher “the most important man in English education” – even though he is German and lives in France. Before joining the OECD, he was Director for Analysis at the International Association for Educational Achievement (IEA). He studied Physics in Germany and received a degree in Mathematics and Statistics in Australia. He is the recipient of numerous honours and awards, including the “Theodor Heuss” prize, awarded in the name of the first president of the Federal Republic of Germany for “exemplary democratic engagement”. He holds an honorary Professorship at the University of Heidelberg.
- Dr Elise Ecoff, Chief Education Officer, Nord Anglia Education
Dr Elise Ecoff is Nord Anglia Education’s Chief Education Officer. Under her leadership, the Education Team ensure that our schools’ educational practice, curricula and programmes are second to none. Comprised of senior education experts, the team drives a research-led approach to educational excellence. In addition to providing specialist support to our principals and teachers, they lead best practice and continuous improvement programmes informed by the latest thinking in teaching and learning, ensuring our schools offer the finest educational experience. Prior to taking up this role in 2020, Elise was Principal at North Broward Preparatory School from 2012 where she had served since 2004 as a division leader, curriculum specialist, and Assistant Head of School. She also spent fifteen years working in Broward County Public Schools in Florida. Serving more than 34 years in education in teaching and leadership roles has enabled Elise to learn much from students, families, teachers, and education experts. Her time leading schools fulfilled a lifelong dream and taught her more than she expected about the power of education, and the many and various ways learning empowers.
- Dan Worth, Senior Editor, Tes
Dan is senior editor at Tes with a focus on policy and analysis in England, the international school market and school leadership. He is a journalist with over ten years’ experience and has five years managing a busy news desk of reporters covering the fast-paced technology sector. He has interviewed high-profile executives at the world’s biggest companies, as well as politicians and celebrities. Dan provides media training based on his time working as a journalist, both for positive, proactive stories and when dealing with crisis communications. He is a public speaker and has regularly appeared on both TV and radio, from Sky to BBC Radio 2, and hosts the Tes International Podcast interviewing international schools leaders about innovations and developments in their schools. Dan has freelanced extensively for a wide range of publications including The Guardian, The Telegraph, TES, Runner’s World, Cornwall Today, HR Magazine, Printweek, the BBC and more.
Host
Rose Luckin – Professor of Learner Centred Design, UCL, Founder, EDUCATE Ventures Research
Rosemary (Rose) Luckin is a Professor at University College London and Founder of EDUCATE Ventures Research (EVR) who has spent over 30 years developing and studying AI for Education. She is renowned for her research into the design and evaluation of educational technology and AI. She was named as one of the 20 most influential people in education in the Seldon List in 2017, the only non-US winner of the ISTE Impact Award, and one of Computer Weekly’s top 50 most influential women in technology for 2023. Rose regularly provides expert evidence to policymakers like the UK Parliament’s House of Lords and House of Commons select committees and the European Commission. Rose has published widely in academic journals, at international conferences, through books, and in news media (TV, radio, newspapers, and magazines). Her 2018 book, Machine Learning and Human Intelligence: The Future of Education for the 21st Century, has been translated into Mandarin and influenced many of China’s leading AI companies. Her most recent book, AI for School Teachers (2022), is an essential and accessible guide to AI for anyone in education.
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Sponsorship
Thank you so much to this series’ sponsor: Nord Anglia Education, the world’s leading premium international schools organisation. They make every moment of your child’s education count. Their strong academic foundations combine world-class teaching and curricula with cutting-edge technology and facilities, to create learning experiences like no other. Inside and outside of the classroom, Nord Anglia Education inspires their students to achieve more than they ever thought possible.
“Along with great academic results, a Nord Anglia education means having the confidence, resilience and creativity to succeed at whatever you choose to do or be in life.” – Dr Elise Ecoff, Chief Education Officer, Nord Anglia Education
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